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Drivers and their problems

A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don't quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Man who refused to pay English-language parking fine loses in court

Toni Schiavone was given the parking fine back in September 2020

However, she said during her verdict that there was nothing in the 1967 Welsh Language Act, the 1993 Welsh Language Act, or the 2011 Welsh Language Measure to compel the parking company to provide a Welsh language service.

She therefore ordered that Toni pay the £100 charge, as well as £70 for administrative costs, £11.90 interest and £85 for the court fee within 21 days.

After explaining her ruling and order, Toni Schiavone said "I understand, but I refuse to pay."

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/man-who-refused-pay-englis...

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Hirsute | 6 months ago
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David9694 | 6 months ago
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How to catch the bus. There's also one about getting off it. If I was going to France or Gernany I guess there'd be no shame in reading up on how to use the RER and the U-Bahn. I guess this is a great way of removing obstacles to public transport use - one of the better things the internet has done -  but isn't using buses a life skill like brushing your teeth or tying your shoe laces??

https://youtu.be/5-yvQBZEhx8?si=foIco7ss8ljVBA8h

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Oxford householders share experiences of living in LTN area

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/24321675.magdalen-road-oxford-resident...

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Driver flips car on busy dual-carriageway after being 'frightened by spider'

Thankfully, there were no reports of injury

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/driver-flips-car-busy-d...

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Exeter bus service suspended over parked car crisis

The P bus in Exeter is unable to follow its usual route due to 'badly parked cars' in Stoke Hill

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/exeter-bus-service-suspended-o...

that will be the same Exeter that sounds like it's poised to rip out its LTN. 

See also: 

Independent Exeter candidate apologises for 'silly' poo threat

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/independent-exeter-candidate-a...?

Exeter LTN traffic troubles influenced city council votes

While Labour held on to the city council and increased its majority by one, the anti-LTN protest made itself felt.

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/exeter-ltn-traffic-troubles-in...?

Exeter 'human bollards' live in fear of death threats and poo through letterboxes

'Safe Streets Now' protestors have been stopping drivers from flouting the rules of the LTN trial this week

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/exeter-human-bollards-live-fea...

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Hirsute | 6 months ago
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Scrap bus lanes so we don't get fined.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-69016315

A spokesman for the Association of British Criminals said there are too many laws preventing people going about their honest day.

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stonojnr | 6 months ago
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Suffolk police have issued another dispersal order on a road this weekend to prevent a reoccurence of drivers dangerous driving that happened over the May Day bank holiday weekend, in some sort of racing & drafting meet up

Wouldn't it just be simpler to police the road?

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24325765.another-dispersal-order-issued-a134...

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Amberley Close blocked by ambulance 'for hour' over parking

Cllr Jill Desayrah previously organised a petition to have the grass verge area by the road converted into parking spaces although had been told by Worcestershire County Council it could not be done because of services beneath the surface, making the job 'too expensive'.

She was contacted by a woman, who did not criticise the ambulance service, saying the situation highlighted the need for extra parking, and even a dedicated bay for ambulances so that paramedics could get to patients more easily in an emergency and residents were not blocked in.

https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/24316476.amberley-close-blocked-amb...

This is from a comment on a story on Kent Online about an elderly cyclist "A cyclist has died after colliding with the driver’s door 🧐 of a car near a railway station."

ED gta Pro wrote:
16/05/2024 14:26
This is really unfortunate that he has passed away,
And my thoughts are with his family,
But how can this happen on that road
[…]
The cars owner is going to pay more for insurance next year as the family will claim on the insurance.
The car will need to be repaired possibly.
If a car hits another one from behind its the car that hits the car fault,
So, in the instance the cyclist must have been at fault,
Not paying enough attention,
Riding too close to the parked car,
Yet the car driver will be held responsible.
 

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Skidz Advanced Driving School at Manston Airport advised to stop by Thanet District Council

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/council-puts-skids-under-drifti...

Diddly Squat planning advice. 

Compare and contrast:  https://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news/maidenhead/152669/velolife-...

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Road rage attack in Courtenay Road, Dunkirk near Faversham sparks police probe

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/faversham/news/road-rage-attack-sparks-poli...

what cars do to people - too often driving has little to do with transport 

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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m'kay

'Take me to court' says pensioner, 78, slapped with £100 parking fine he won't pay

Peter Toolan, 78, said he had 'no intention of trying to avoid payment' and is ready to fight his case in court

Mr Toolan, a former High School teacher, was charged £100 after parking at Redditch Train Station on February 24, 2024. He claimed the ticket machine was broken and that he planned to pay for the ticket the following day, not wanting to download an app and pay online at the time since he did not know when he would return to his vehicle🧐.

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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New parking rules in England (that would be nice, but it's Sheffield) from Monday and drivers fear 'being fined for breathing'

The new rules will come into effect across Sheffield from Monday, May 20, with £70 fines for drivers - reduced to £35 if paid within 14 days.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-parking-rules-en...

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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UK drivers warned over £87 charge (???)  when they turn up to petrol forecourts in May

Tesco, Asda, Morrisons, Sainsbury's, BP, Texaco, Esso and Shell drivers have been warned to expect a rising cost at the pump as petrol and diesel prices soar.

RAC fuel spokesman Simon Williams said: “Drivers are once again having to dig deep🎻 just to go about their daily lives. Our data shows petrol and diesel have now gone up 10p a litre so far this year on the back of further increases in April of 3p and 2p respectively.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/shopping/uk-drivers-warned-ove...

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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second home owner gets £60 parking penalty in Cornwall 

Pensioner's fury after being stung with £100 parking charge at West Country holiday spot

David Lester said he 'feels sorry' for people who have to pay the standard, and increasingly high, charges let alone additional parking charge notices (PCNs)

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/pensioners-fury-after-...

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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but, but 

Plea to pedestrianise Friar Street to help cost of living

Suggestions on how to revive the historic street, dubbed 'the prettiest in Worcester' by proud shop owners, include pedestrianising the road and encouraging a greater variety of traditional and unique trades to take up residence there.

https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/24328931.plea-pedestrianise-friar-s...

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stonojnr | 6 months ago
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stonojnr | 6 months ago
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Residents dismay at parking permit plans. One resident going so far as to claim being able to park where you want for free actually improves road safety

ttps://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24330266.residents-dismay-parking-permit-plans-framl...

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HLaB | 6 months ago
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https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/temporary-speed-limit-m...

The poor folk who were going above the previous limit are now going a over the temporary limit that's been ignored by them for 3 years  7

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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52 mph tractor menace - stiffer penalties including life imprisonment demanded 

Woman run over by tractor at Wroxham Barns in Norfolk

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/24330496.woman-run-tractor-wroxham-barns-no...

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hawkinspeter | 6 months ago
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Sydney Road in Bath - locals claim that it's a rat run and like the LTN, yet South Coast Travel claim that it's not a rat run and want the LTN removed (maybe because their coach had trouble turning round in the road as they tried to use it as a rat run):

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/local-news/coach-gets-stuck-road-closed-9295714

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brooksby | 6 months ago
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/automated-vehicles-bill-2023/...

Quote:

Authorisation for use of self-driving will determine if vehicles are capable of safely and lawfully driving themselves without the need for a human to exercise control or monitor the road. In vehicles with authorised user-in-charge features, a human is still required in the vehicle to respond to requests from the vehicle and to hold at all times driver responsibilities other than those relating to exerting control of the vehicle and monitoring the road environment. 

When an authorised user-in-charge feature is engaged, the human driver is not required to monitor the road and it would be unfair if they were to bear responsibility for the behaviour of the vehicle on the road. Responsibility for the manner of driving rests with the ASDE and an ASDE is responsible for its behaviour. To address this, Part 2, Chapter 1 of the bill creates the new concept of the ‘user-in-charge’. Under clause 46, an individual is a user-in-charge where they are in, and in a position to exercise control of, an authorised vehicle when a user-in-charge feature is engaged, but not controlling the vehicle. The user-in-charge has immunity from road traffic offences relating to how the vehicle behaves on the road as set out in clause 47.

;tldr = The person in the self driving vehicle cannot be held responsible for the actions of the self driving vehicle.  Instead, the software provider or manufacturer becomes responsible.

Not sure how I feel about that…

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brooksby | 6 months ago
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/22/uk-drivers-warn...

Grauniad wrote:

Motorists have been warned to be vigilant after a 60-fold increase in “crash for cash” fraud claims involving motorbike and scooter riders staging accidents so they can blame innocent drivers.

The insurer Allianz said its data showed that claims relating to this scam increased by 6,000% between January and December 2023 – a significant jump from the 50% increase the year before.

This type of insurance fraud typically involves an “induced accident”, in which a rider attempts to deliberately get hit by a vehicle in order to make a claim.

Criminals often target drivers as they park their cars – for example, they will ride past just as the driver opens the car door so that it hits the motorbike or scooter, with the aim being to make it appear the motorist’s fault.

Erm - but if they open their door without looking and hit someone, even a crook, then it is their fault.

Isn't it?

 

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stonojnr | 6 months ago
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More grassy knoll nonsense, "Jumanji Junction" words fail sometimes
https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/24337313.anger-grass-a14-seven-hills-...

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Car-free Bibury - sounds good to me.  This seems to have been going on since October. 

Cotswold villagers living in 'England's prettiest street' cut off by road closure due to 'dangerous wall'

Ambulance crews had to take one Arlington Row resident on a stretcher across the a pedestrian bridge in Bibury

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/cheltenham-news/cotswold-vill...

Another resident said such a thing happened on Sunday. Paul Johnson said his neighbour was dashed 300 yards to an ambulance. “That’s three times,” he said. He also told the meeting that another neighbour has not been out of his home since the closure.

Gosh, what happens if you live on the 20th floor? I have literally no idea how people can have lived anywhere worked anywhere or got supplies before they all had cars. 

My son’s stopped coming because of it. One you can’t park and two, you can’t access the row." Mr Johnson said he has had no notification about the closure from the authorities nor an explanation about it.

“You can’t even get logs to your cottage which sounds a trivial thing," he said. “I find it absolutely appalling. It’s been an absolute shambles.”

https://www.biburyparishcouncil.gov.uk/news/2023/10/awkward-hill-road-cl...

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Hirsute | 6 months ago
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There's not a lot to do in Bristol in the evening.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmj2k3n3no

A man who has written a 150 page report into a controversial bus gate has said the traffic measure is "unlawful" and "defective".

"This one is not normal. There is something wrong with the design."

umm

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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'Cut off' Surrey town 'becomes an island' after road closures turn three minute journey into one hour

A Surrey mum has the traffic chaos is adding stress to children's GCSE exam

Ellen Watkins, who has lived in Cobham for 30 years, said the onslaught of traffic chaos is making the much-loved town an unpleasant place to live. The mother of three even considered renting a property near her son's school last year, so he could finish his A Levels without the stress of being late to his exams.

She drives a minibus of students from Cobham to the Chertsey school and said that even to get from Cobham High Street to the A3 takes around 40 minutes, instead of three.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/cut-off-surrey-town-becomes...
 

edit: School o'clock screengrab - not seeing a problem outbound from Cobham? 

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Drivers and their problems 

Like many parents to have taken on the unpaid role as their children’s taxi service in the last 12 months, never have we clocked-up so many miles motoring across the south for one sporting fixture or another.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/news/opinion/road-closures-are-up-200-and-i...

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wtjs | 6 months ago
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It's a disgrace! Having to drive around in a vehicle FG07 OHF with MOT failed a month ago for multiple serious safety defects, and towing a trailer with a different and false plate W709 ANW. However, on the brighter side, this is Lancashire where the police and PCC don't care about road safety or driving offences

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David9694 | 6 months ago
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Lives "around the corner", but visited twice by car in one day.  He also needs to stick with just the one story - "you can't prove that's my car" exiting after visit #2 ain't helping. 

Netley Abbey pensioner vows not to pay Tesco parking fine

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24341843.netley-abbey-pensioner-vows-no...

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